have recently been asked 'what is 'false stone'?
Stone is stone', according to the questioner. Well again
maybe so, however the stone from the quarries here, where
many Native people have shed their blood, sweat and tears,
is full of an amazing energy that allows a person to send
their prayers to the Creator, it offers that person the
chance to be heard and to get an answer from the highest
Spirit there is. If one offends around the stone, be it
cursing, or behaving badly, the energies of the stone metes
out due retribution. If one treats the stone badly the same
thing happens. I know that I would never dream of doing
or saying anything bad near the stone or on the Quarry grounds.
I have seen the effects that can happen. I have witnessed
the awesome power of the quarries, the stone and the Pipe.
the other hand the 'false stone' doesn't have those
energies. It is basically like a dead body, where the Spirit
of the person has left. You cannot pick up anything alive
in it. You can still see the physical body but you know
that is all there is. That stone is just like that, physically
it looks similar to Catlinite, but there is no spirit eminating
from it. It is that 'Spirit of Catlinite' that Native people
have picked up on and know that the Creator put it there
for a reason.
know it sounds far fetched, but spiritual things often sound
that way. Spirit cannot be proved, but those who feel it
KNOW that it is there, and those who use it have the FAITH
that this is from the Creator. On the other hand those who
know nothing about Spirit, cannot feel it, speak to, hear
or see it will probably never understand what I am speaking
lights are all around the quarries in Pipestone, the lights
of those beings that we know hardly anything about, the
SPIRIT LIGHTS. They may be small but they are powerful in
their magnificance, and luminance. I've yet to see any in
now on the Monument grounds Spirits are restless, they see
and hear all that is going on and they don't like it. They
have been heard by many people, (including Chuck & Gloria,)
speaking together, playing music and singing. When the people
have gone to see who is making the sounds they find nothing
and no-one. Trouble is in the air and Spirit knows it. They
are seeing the Original Dakota people in Pipestone being
put down by those who are misusing their little bit of power,
they are watching the anguish of those same Dakota people
as they see their traditions being thrown on the garbage
pile while new traditions are being accepted as fine and
dandy by the Pipestone non-native Community. For the over
70 years the Dakota have resided in town they and their
established cultural practices, rituals and unwritten laws
have never been treated so shabbily, even with all the usual
racism that occurs in predominantly non-native towns.
story is on-going, and will be told in full when the time
is right. There is much happening right now behind the scenes.
If you are interested in hearing more do keep visiting the
site. As soon as I am able I will put the full details on
snippets from emails we have received about the false stone.........
the way I loved your story of the Jasper quarries. I purchased
some stone at a Pow Wow here in Arkansas that I have a hunch
came from there. I was assured that it could be shaped with
a "butter knife". Well, these people must have better butter
knives in their kitchens than I have in mine because I had
trouble cutting this stuff with a carbon saw." - pup59
I did not know about the false pipestone, explains a lot.
We had been gifted some red stone that was said to have
come from the sacred quarries. But was so brittle, when
we started to work it, it just cracked and splintered."
have in the past used stone from ......... I am tired of
being ripped off by this guy!!!! with stone you could not
cut with a diamond bit, or stone that is so fractured it
is not usable, I don't make hundreds of pipes usually just
a couple a year. - Marvin, May 2003
tried to carve my own pipe for prayer work before but the
stone was very hard and eventually it broke. I thanked Wakan
Tanka and asked to be shown why it broke. After reading
this site I'm thinking that maybe I was sold a fake stone.
- Andrea, Oklahoma, October 20 2001
few years ago my brother had sent me a piece of pipestone
and it was soft and very easy to shape. This year he sent
another piece and it is, I'll use the term "hard as a rock",
I am having a lot of trouble shaping it. - November 2002
did get some of the fake stone that you mentioned from a
seller on eBay. I don't know what in the world it was that
he sent me, but it wasn't the real deal. When I'm able to
do so, I should probably send the stone that I got from
eBay to you to look at. Thanks again, - Del, June 2002
have unsuccessfully tried to make a pipe from the few pieces
of "not so great” stone I have been given, and it’s
full of hard places and then crumbly places. I feel it has
been very frustrating for a reason. I have been on the wrong
path. I know real pipestone is the right path. - Joe,
ordered some stone from someone else that I found on line.
I had some problems. The first stone had a crack. It was
a large piece. I was able to cut 2 pipe blanks from it.
I had no problems getting it replaced. He even sent me an
extra small piece. As you can guess the new large piece
also had cracks. - Bill W, October 2004.
reading your site on pipestone, i'm glad i didn't buy from
the other sites i see. - E B, November 2004
letter below came in from a lady in November 2004. I asked
her if I could use it and she said 'Of course', after she
received the genuine stone a few days later she again wrote
and that is included here as well. Thanks Joni for letting
us use your words.
you for this wonderful information!! This explains a lot
of things, such as, why some of the "pipestone" I've run
across doesn't feel right, why a piece I had a while back
behaved the way it did. I kept it for a long time before
attemptng to carve it, it seems part of me was afraid to
touch it. It had a weird vibe; it seemed to carry fear and
confusion. So finally I gathered up my nerve and my tools
and tried to carve it, but it bent and blunted my tools
and finally broke in my hand. I got quite upset, fearing
that the stone had judged me unworthy. I buried the stone
in a deserted place and for a while I was afraid of Pipestone.
I told anyone who would listen that Pipestone was dangerous
to most people with regular human frailties, only the most
perfect people could dare touch it with impunity. As you
can guess, I didn't make too many friends, talking that
that was some years back, and the years have smoothed and
polished me like water running over rocks. I've always felt
drawn to Pipestone, and recently came across your wonderful
site when I thought I'd get some and make gifts for my friends.
Now I understand! That stuff that gave me a good scare a
while back was not Pipestone at all! It was not I who was
at fault after all!
other day I was in a rock shop and someone working there
told me proudly that they'd just obtained some Pipestone.
I asked to see it, and they showed me these huge chunks
of something that didn't feel right. So I've sent your URL
to the owner of that shop and I hope he visits your site.
Most people I've met in the gem and mineral trade are good
intentioned people who love the Earth and her stone children,
and have decided to make a living working with what they
love. They would not purposely try to defraud anyone, but
too many people simply don't know! Thanks for getting the
word out there. Some people who are making money off of
others' ignorance and good intentions may give you a hard
time. But you are doing a good thing and I hope you have
a long life, a long and happy work, and many blessings!
to let you know, it arrived safely and it is beautiful!
As soon as I opened the box I smelled a wonderful aroma
of sage, tobacco, Pipestone, and the indefinable scent of
Something Sacred. I examined the pieces and I now see that
there is no mistaking "the real McCoy" once you see it and
feel it and know it. A while back, as a beginning artist,
I asked a gem and minerals trader, how do you know the difference
between real and fake diamond? He replied, the same as you
know the difference between stone and glass or plastic,
you just know how it's supposed to look and feel. I've seen
a bit of so-called "Pipestone" and I always felt funny about
touching it. Now that I see and feel these pieces you sent,
I feel good about touching and working it, and there is
no way I can ever mistake the fake stuff again. Every few
months or so, I get some good organic tobacco from a trader
in New Mexico. Like Pipestone, this trader regards true
tobacco as sacred, and so he does not sell the tobacco itself,
he only accepts payment for his work in obtaining and distributing
it. Next time I get some, I'll send some to you for your
work. And I'll be sure and pass along your URL to any trader
I meet, who needs to know about the fake stuff vs the Real
McCoy. Thanks and Blessings to you! -- Joni